What is Truth?

Many people following religious belief systems live in fear of being deceived by people who hold truths that are different from what they have been taught, or what their group believes.  Here is a rather lengthy, but interesting discussion I had with some devout Christians on this subject:

Colin Warning: half-truths are still whole lies.

February 20 at 5:10pm

Michelle

True dat!

February 20 at 5:18pm

Ryan

So true!

February 20 at 5:29pm

Hope Johnson

Thank you for posting such a rich topic for discussion!

Both truth and untruth are only perceptions of the mind. But our spirit is not of the mind – our spirit is unified with the Divine at a level where mind does not exist.

Through our minds we can become so attached to OUR truth that we fear truth from another perspective. But when we are consolidated with our own truth, we can accept all others because understanding one another cannot harm or distort our truth

Conversely, when we have adopted the truth of another person or group, our truth is a fragile belief – not truth of understanding. This is the basis of fear, and fear is the ultimate illusion.

February 21 at 10:29am ·

Ryan

Truth is not a perception. There is only one absolute truth and Jesus Christ is it.

February 21 at 11:37am

Hope Johnson

That’s absolute truth from your perception Ryan. Someone raised in a different culture might perceive Mohammed or Budda to be the absolute truth.

February 21 at 2:45pm ·

Michael

…..and they would be wrong……………..that’s the TRUTH!!

February 21 at 5:07pm

Ryan

I like the way you think Michael!

February 21 at 5:33pm

Hope Johnson

Exactly guys! Perception is a result of an individual’s thinking process. To think that your own is “right” and others that don’t agree with it are “wrong” is exactly what makes it a matter of perception.

February 22 at 7:28am ·

Erika

I am confused as to how someone could think there can be so many different truths, based on someone’s perspective. Especially when those ‘truths’ can oppose the other. I hate to be extreme, but, my mind immediately goes to those who are a part of Al Qaeda . Clearly their ‘truth’ is to come to the US and obliterate us and our land with suicidal bombers, etc. Should we stop defending and try to understand their ‘truth’? Obviously it is their ‘truth’ if they are willing to die for it.

February 22 at 3:20pm

Ryan

Agreed Erika. Relativity in truth only exists for those that want to reject it. It is comedic to me how the masses accept man made truth. And yes, Budah, Mohammed, Osama, and Obama are ALL man made truths. Don’t think so? Better go re-read their books.

February 22 at 3:41pm

Hope Johnson

Hi Erika! Any truth that opposes another truth is perspective. Without the filter of mind, there is no opposition – everything is unified.

As for Al Queda, you and I are in no position to decide either way about war, but if we can project acceptance and a willingness to understand from our own perspective – we are creating peace. Everything else is fear, and we’ve enough of that in the world already.

February 22 at 4:05pm ·

Erika

Hi Hope!
What confuses me is that we would be trying to understand Al-Qaeda from our own perspective- which is nothing like their perspective. That is fine, however, it would be nearly impossible to understand.

Another issue: perhaps someone is deeply upset with you, and they decide to hurt one of your loved ones. In their mind, it would be for a legitimate reason, they believe it to be OK, therefore, being true to themselves, they act out on what they believe in, resulting in pain on your end.
Al-Qaeda does the same thing. The leader is so influential that the followers would take their own lives, and have their own children do the same in order to act out on their truths. Its true for them! How could it be bad that they crash our airplanes into our buildings? or bomb different government buildings. If no one’s perception can be wrong, why do we see this as terrorism? I am not talking about war. I am referring to malicious attacks on our country because of some heartless power hungry leader in another country decided they want to rule the world, and brainwash and abuse those around them to obtain their selfish desires.

Something less traumatic: The economy is going through a rough time. Should people that don’t have jobs be able to steal food and water in order to provide for their families? Given the circumstance, they would believe they deserve it after the ‘bad luck’ they may have experienced, and it is obvious that they need the minimum essentials in order to survive.

If people are entitled to their own “truth’s”, I TRUELY believe that mayhem would break loose completely, and peace would merely be something people once hoped for.

I have said these things to you, that in me you may have peace. In the world you will have tribulation. But take heart; I have overcome the world.”
—John 16:33

February 22 at 4:37pm

Hope Johnson

Ryan – All truths are man made. Truth and untruth are two sides of the same coin – which manifest as one or the other depending on who’s looking.

Religion is for those of us who seek spirituality yet perceive reality through the prism of mind. Belief systems help to make sense of the senseless and to explain the unexplainable, but we choose which one to accept as truth.

Every believer finds every other religion comical. So while you are laughing at others and calling them wrong – they are doing the same to you.

This creates polarity between people, and is the reason for much conflict.

While religion is useful for those who have not yet developed depth of understanding, attachment to the one we call ours is rejection and even fear of all others – and that is seed of war.

It is possible to have any religion we choose without fear of others – and just taking that step leads to deeper understanding and improves our shared reality.

February 22 at 4:40pm ·

Erika

I don’t have fear of other religions. I don’t focus on things that I reject, that will get you no where in life. I focus on the truth that God is the creator of everyone, even those who believe God doesn’t exist. Because of sinful nature, God sacrificed his son, Jesus Christ, who has paid for our sins. You are given free life, and so many people reject the greatest gift.

February 22 at 4:45pm

Colin

The Word of God is the only truth that need be discussed – and shouted from all the ends of the earth!. The rest is manufactured, by man, to satisfy his selfish needs and desires. Hope, no disrespect, but you talk in circles a lot without any substance or facts. I believe that to be very dangerous as it could be very misleading to so many people. Any blatant misdirection away from God’s loving arms leads to eternal damnation. That’s not my rule; it is God’s. God the Father, the Creator of Heaven and Earth and everything that exists. As the creator of life, His word is the the Absolute Truth. Nothing can be added to it nor taken away from it. I am not suggesting that you are trying to impose your will on mankind but just because you choose to reject the absolute truth of God and our risen savior Jesus Christ, does not discount their existence and authority over all living creatures – including you. Jesus Christ, our living God, is the Way, the Truth and the Life – no one will get to The Father except through him – no one! I don’t care how warm and fuzzy your words are; if they are not biblically based and cannot pass the judgement seat of God then they really don’t count. Not on an eternal level and that is all that matters. We will all spend eternity in one of two places – I know where I will spend eternity. Also, as a Christian, a disciple of Christ, it is my responsibility to share this absolute truth with everyone. I will never force feed it or ram it down your throat but I will make it known. Everyone deserves the opportunity to choose for themselves; I will not stand in their way. God’s word cannot be denied, nor can it be altered or changed. Since He is our Creator His Word is the one and only truth and final authority over ALL mankind – whether you choose to believe it or not.

February 22 at 5:15pm

Erika

**Stands up**Claps**

Well put, Colin. Amen!

February 22 at 5:22pm

Ryan

Hope – You are 100% wrong. Man did not create God, God created man. The manifestation of two sides of a coin is human nature denying God’s truths. By doing that, people feel they can create truth themselves.

As for religion, I am not a proponent of religion. Why you ask? Because religion is man made. Religions are created by man to hide from the truth that exists in everyones lives, whether they believe it or not. You are correct that we all choose what to believe, and we can be thankful to God for that free will.

I do indeed find religion comical because people are chasing something man made and EVERYTHING made by man will fail. When people depend on man they find despair, greed, destruction, and lies.

Conflict is caused by people who choose to create their own truths.

Religion is not useful for anything except a word to hide behind. I am in no way afraid of any religion because God, yours and mine alike whether you choose to accept Him or not, is bigger than anything man makes. I do reject all religions because they all lack true focus by creating rituals, false gods, and idols.

As for reality, I feel like this conversation is going further from it. What is not reality is the acceptance of everyones beliefs. It is 100% impossible to look at yourself in the mirror and say you follow your own words. If so then you accept murder, pedophilia, and rape as many think these are absolutely acceptable.

February 22 at 5:28pm

Hope Johnson

Erika – It’s not a matter of trying to understand – it’s simply acceptance and willingness to understand. When the actions of people or a group cause misery, it’s enough to understand that they are struggling with much conflict in their minds.

While that conflict has become so severe that their desires have been seriously distorted, it was born and cultivated all along by lack of acceptance. And adding our own to that only exacerbates what is being focused upon.
The things that you listed above are all manifestations of the conflict that exists in the mind. Each person projects for their perspective into the world, and the less we accept – the more we manifest to find unacceptable.

I Love the verse you quoted. When we look around in the world, we will find much conflict to be focused upon, but when we have peace of mind the world is overcome. That was Jesus’ gift – all we have to do is accept it. It’s not about believing, but being.

It helps not to fear that other perspectives can deceive you – the next step is acceptance. While God is the creator, the Divine is also not a thing in existence but existence itself. When we realize that, it’s also plain that whatever name or face people want to give God – it is only their way of relating.

Jesus IS God (just like everything else – it’s just that he unified his self image with his true essence), and he may have sacrificed himself – but all consciousness is creating our reality in the present moment.

Irrespective of which religion we choose, we decide how to use our power of perception to create in the world today.

Every thought is a prayer. Make each one count toward the reality you wish to create.

February 22 at 5:33pm ·

Erika

If we are talking about perspectives. Who is to say what struggle or conflict really is. Obviously it is different to everyone. Take rest in the fact that the only real Truth in this world is that God created EVERYTHING.

Hope- being has nothing to do with it. If it weren’t for God, you wouldn’t have the ability to be. Believing is what matters. Without knowing Jesus Christ, you will never truly experience peace. ‘Peace of mind’ is temporary. I choose not to put my hope and faith in things that are fleeting. Christ is more powerful than anything you can imagine, make, or believe. Man is nothing without its creator.

I do admire that you believe people’s minds are important and that positivity is a good thing. It really is. However, The source of it all makes it possible for you to even be able to have thoughts, energy, and perspective.

Another thing, what exactly do you mean when you say the divine?

February 22 at 5:46pm

Hope Johnson

Gentlemen -Acceptance is not enjoying or agreeing with anything. It is only a perspective that frees the mind to manifest toward that which we consider an improvement.

Accepting God is accomplished by staying alert and aware of our thoughts so as to allow Godliness to be expressed through us into the world around us.

February 22 at 5:47pm ·

Hope Johnson

Erika – struggle and conflict are easily identifiable to the individual – it’s anything focused upon that causes us to feel the need for control.

God created everything, but creation isn’t finished. Existence is an infinite creation.

If God only created us, and then flew up into the sky, we would just wither away. God is the conscious energy that creates and sustains everything. In this way, through our individual awareness, we summon the power of God.

That is how we create our reality, and whether we understand it or not, we are creating in every second.

Let’s make our creation glorious!

February 22 at 6:11pm ·

Erika

From my perspective, Hope, it seems like you have the need to control your own life. By your definition of struggle and conflict seems to coincide with what you are talking about in this whole conversation. It seems as though you won’t let God control your life. I don’t want to pry, this is just my perception, and me trying to understand yours. You seek peace, yet the only thing that provides true peace is something you don’t seem, or even want, to grasp. Giving your life up to Christ, and cultivating a relationship with Him is the most fulfilling and peaceful thing you could ever do. Nothing you or anyone else can do or create as a human being.

I ask again, “another thing, what exactly do you mean when you say the divine?”

February 22 at 10:51pm

Hope Johnson

Erika – What I am talking about is releasing control. This release is what creates peace in any moment.

Separation from God can be felt by noticing which thoughts stake our well being on any outcome. Through awareness, we can notice this and return (repent) to align our thoughts with the Divine flow of life that is within us.

Labeling anything as right or wrong, truth or untruth, etc is attachment – an expression of a human need for control. This is how the mind justifies separation from God. No matter what our belief system, labeling and feeling a need to control anything separates our self image from the Divine energy that sustains our being. In separation, we project conflict into the world.

God on the other hand does not look through the prism of mind. The Divine intelligence knows that everything is always a perfect manifestation of all consciousness that precedes it. When we direct our thoughts to be closer to Divine intelligence, we project for our perspective for improvement.

Through acceptance, our energy is shifted from repeating what is to projection for what is possible.

The Divine is all that emanates from God. God is existence – not something separate from it.

Tue at 7:44am ·

Jill

Hi Erika, welcome to the circular mumbo jumbo that is the world according to Hope. Good luck getting her to answer a ? she can’t. She just likes to throw out a lot of nonsense and insane ramblings to try to keep the focus off of the fact that she cannot support anything she says and that she actually contradicts herself.
Colin- that was awesome! I love you!
Ryan- I am sorry that religion has left a bad taste in your mouth. It isn’t all like that and I hope you will let others reach out to you to show you that. The church I go to is very small, no membership required, never passes a plate, we have pot lucks and celebrations of different events. We also are aware that there are different personalities that combine to make up the children of God and just like in our own families we don’t always get along. It is unreasonable to ecpect all of us to be “best friends” and that’s O.K.

Have a great day everyone and let me just end by saying.

“The difference between God and us is that God never thinks He is us.” John Goldingay

Tue at 11:00am

Hope Johnson

Jill – Your experience of me seems similar to that of the “believers” back in Jesus’ day when he was telling them that the Kingdom of God is within them.I leave no question unanswered, it’s just that you have predetermined what you will accept as an answer.

Regarding the quote, the idea that God thinks at all is a man-made projection. God is not subject to the limitations of mind. When we subject ourselves to the limitations imposed by labels of the mind, that is rejection of God – that is separation from God.

Tue at 12:07pm ·

Paul

I concur…..half lies always lead to full punishment too….

Tue at 3:02pm

Jill

Hi Paul :o)

Wed at 5:35am

Hope Johnson

Hello Paul! Thank you for bringing up punishment.

Punishment is not possible without judgment. According to The Bible, Jesus said “Judge not lest you be judged”.

Despite this very straightforward admonishment, many of us still believe that judging our truth as “right” and others as “wrong” is a worthwhile way to exert control. In reality, all punishment experienced in the world is created by belief in the judgments we make through individual perception.

It is our own belief in judgment and punishment that make it a reality in our experience. Terrorists, murderers, pedophiles, etc. are all examples of the punishment we have created for ourselves.

Through judgment we continue to be our own stumbling block for the evolution of humanity toward a harmonious world. Free will gives us the choice, and we choose with every thought.

Wed at 8:29am ·

Michael

There HAS to be chemical abuse going on here…….WOW!!!
Time to break out my crystals & tarot cards…………

Wed at 9:51am

Jill

LOL 🙂

Wed at 9:55am

Hope Johnson

Chemicals are one way to avoid reality. That’s why prescription drug use is at an all-time high, and perfectly acceptable according to most believers.

The other way we avoid the depth of reality is by believing everything we have been conditioned to believe. When we are so conditioned, an open mind seems bizarre and so we reject it without real consideration.

Penetrate through the confines of mind, you are so much more than what you think!

Wed at 10:34am ·

Erika

Hope- what is the point of trying to convince us of what you believe, ie. continuing this conversation, if you didn’t think we were all wrong? Am I wrong in saying that you are judging us and our beliefs, which would, by your explanations, be gaining control? Like I said before, laws help prevent turmoil, meaning there must be punishment for wrong-doing. I also believe that the verse you quoted was not meant for us to not judge right and wrong. That is a part of every day life. We are not to judge others. Making a judgment of something is different than making a judgment about someone. How could right and wrong even be in existence of it weren’t for judgment.
This also begs the question: do you not think we should have a judicial system?

If you read the book of revelation, you will understand that, sadly, our world will never be ‘harmonious’. People are sinful. The Bible clearly states that the world, and especially the government will be going downhill, (which is happening now),which all points to the day that Christ will come back. I cannot wait for that day, because I know that the world, as magnificent as God created it, is becoming a bad place because of man’s sinful nature. I want to be made new and rejoice with our heavenly Father and dance on the streets of Gold in praise.

Wed at 10:41am

Michael

…and you, troubled soul, are so much farther gone than you think….as Colin so succinctly put it, “..you talk in circles”…and I’m getting dizzy!!

Wed at 10:44am

Jill

Erika- in Heaven I will actually be able to dance 🙂 I’ll see you there.

Wed at 10:45am

Erika

Jill- I look forward to meeting you and dancing together!

Wed at 10:47am

Hope Johnson

Erika – I am so grateful for all of your questions.

I do not want to give anyone new beliefs or change their current beliefs, I am only pointing out that we are not our minds. We are spirit that transcends the mind, and while we are choosing our beliefs – those beliefs are creating our reality here and now.

Do you have any doubt that humans are creating in this reality?

I don’t think anyone is wrong and do not need to be right. I accept all beliefs as products of our thinking process, but do not consider any of them to be right or wrong.

I love what you said “how could right and wrong even be in existence if it weren’t for judgment”. That is absolutely how it happens – through judgment of the mind. That is why it’s important to remember that any judgment being made is just our mind, and our true self transcends mind.

Judging certain behavior or truths as right or wrong is an automatic judgment of anyone who engages in what we have labeled “wrong”. This is how the most well meaning among us still judge people. Hence the Bible verse – “no one is righteous” (I’m paraphrasing).

Whether we should or should not have anything is another judgment. As far as a judicial system goes, the more laws we make, the more criminal behavior we create. Likewise, the more jails and prisons we build, the more people tend to belong within them.

But we don’t need to start shutting down the judicial system. When most people awaken to the Self beyond the mind, these things will gracefully fall away.

I have read the book of Revelation, and I have a deep understanding of it. Sin is our identification with our minds instead of our true Self. The mind can’t help but be sinful because it sees everything through the concept of separation. That’s how you know yourself to be a person, separate from everything else.

In separation, there can never be harmony. But, we are also conscious beings – intricately connected to the source of everything and all other beings, and when we direct our thoughts into alignment with our inner (not mind) intelligence, the essence of our inner Being can become our predominant expression through our physical bodies and minds. That Being is pure, innocent spirit – not capable of sin because it is Divine.

When we harmonize our self-image with the Self that is infinite – that is the Kingdom of Heaven. This is not something to wait for. It is here now, and we are directing it with every thought.

This is what Jesus was talking about, and I can only hope that I am making it clear enough for human understanding. Thank you so much for taking the time to grasp what I’m attempting to explain – and for your feedback.

Wed at 1:34pm ·

Jill

“Labeling anything as right or wrong, truth or untruth, etc is attachment – an expression of a human need for control.This is how the mind justifies separation from God. …
No matter what our belief system, labeling and feeling a need to control anything separates our self image from the Divine energy that sustains our being. In separation, we project conflict into the world.”
Hope Johnson 5 posts up.

Adam and Eve were not separated from God when they tried to assert their “human need for control”

Gen 3:1 “Now the serpent was more crafty than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said to the woman, “Indeed, has God said, ‘You shall not eat from any tree of the garden’?”
Gen 3:2 The woman said to the serpent, “From the fruit of the trees of the garden we may eat;
Gen 3:3 but from the fruit of the tree which is in the middle of the garden, God has said, ‘You shall not eat from it or touch it, or you will die.’ ”
Gen 3:4 The serpent said to the woman, “You surely will not die!
Gen 3:5 “For God knows that in the day you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”
Gen 3:6 When the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was desirable to make one wise, she took from its fruit and ate; and she gave also to her husband with her, and he ate.

The conflict they projected IS separation from God.

Erika- I know you know all of this but as Christians we have a responsibility to protect others from false doctrine and there may be someone reading along with this that needs that protection.

Wed at 2:49pm

Hope Johnson

Jill – This story says it all. Look deep into the meaning. Adam and Even gained the knowledge of good and evil from the tree of knowledge – this is identification with the mind. We cannot know the difference without it.

What died there in the garden was innocence. When we identify ourselves as the mind, we cast judgment, and all innocence is lost.

The knowledge that they gained was worldly wisdom through the prism of mind. This is the beginning of all “sin” aka separation from God.

We remain cast out of the garden because we continue to believe in separation as our only possible reality. Free will gives us the ability to return to the garden, but we keep succumbing to the temptation and delight in our worldly knowledge.

Wed at 3:05pm ·

Jill

Hope- The “story” as you called it does say it all without any help from you. The fact that you think you have to explain things to everyone smacks of your desperate need to be dominant and in control. I am still waiting for your explanation of how you are such an authority on what the Word of God says. I think for the most part it is very obvious for even the young to understand. After all Christ did instruct us :
“Truly I say to you, whoever does not receive the kingdom of God like a child will not enter it {at all.}” Luke 18: 17.

That certainly contradicts your continued statements that “we just aren’t looking deep enough or don’t understand the real meaning”.

So faith {comes} from hearing, and hearing by the word of Christ. Rom. 10:17

This is the only thing I want to find out from you: did you receive the Spirit by the works of the Law, or by hearing with faith? Gal. 3:2

I think I’ll keep my faith right where it is at thank you very much and you have the free will to keep your faith were it is at.

Wed at 3:47pm

Hope Johnson

Jill – Do you understand what “like a child” means? Is it not innocence? I can interpret The Bible because I know innocence – like a child. In this way, I can enter the kingdom of God as well.

I am sharing this with you because I love you as much as I love myself. Indeed, we are the same – unified in spirit. I can see you lost in darkness, and I am sharing some Light to show you what you have been missing.

While I share openly, I have no need for desperation or control. Each of us will return to innocence in our own time, and we will bask in the glory of all that we have overcome together.

As for the verses on faith, being innocent requires unwavering faith. Looking around in the world today, most believers would say it’s impossible to be innocent and not cast judgment – how would we choose who gets punished? they say.

By grace we are saved through faith. But we are without faith when we choose to cast judgment, and thus we cannot enter the Kingdom of God. Of course, we can always repent (return to our true Self), and accept the gift of the Kingdom in any moment.

Wed at 4:14pm ·

Jill

For WHO HAS KNOWN THE MIND OF THE LORD, OR WHO BECAME HIS COUNSELOR? Rom. 11:34

Who has directed the Spirit of the LORD, Or as His counselor has informed Him? Isa. 40:13

Thus says the LORD of hosts, “Do not listen to the words of the prophets who are prophesying to you. They are leading you into futility; They speak a vision of their own imagination, Not from the mouth of the LORD. Jer. 23:16

I thank Christ Jesus our Lord, who has strengthened me, because He considered me faithful, putting me into service,
even though I was formerly a blasphemer and a persecutor and a violent aggressor. Yet I was shown mercy because I acted ignorantly in unbelief;
and the grace of our Lord was more than abundant, with the faith and love which are found in Christ Jesus.
It is a trustworthy statement, deserving full acceptance, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, among whom I am foremost of all.
Yet for this reason I found mercy, so that in me as the foremost, Jesus Christ might demonstrate His perfect patience as an example for those who would believe in Him for eternal life.
Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory forever and ever. Amen.
This command I entrust to you, Timothy, my son, in accordance with the prophecies previously made concerning you, that by them you fight the good fight,
keeping faith and a good conscience, which some have rejected and suffered shipwreck in regard to their faith. 1 Timothy 1:12-19

Wed at 6:50pm

Colin

The Word of God is the absolute and only truth! This is non-negotiable and undeniable. Any addition to, or omission of, the Word of God is blasphemy, deceitful and sinful in nature. All this other warm fuzzy feeling, choose your own adventure, outlandish, idiosyncratic, hocus-pocus, doublespeak, tomfoolery is false witness, idolatry and is punishable by eternal damnation. This is not my thought, transcended mind, imagination or unnecessary judgement of behavior; it is the spoken word of God the Father in Heaven – Creator and Judge of ALL creation. PERIOD!

Wed at 8:11pm

Erika

Amen! I think we have a new record in how many comments were posted under one of Colin’s status’. Well done. Give yourself a pat on the back, buddy!

Wed at 11:17pm

Michael

Preach it, Brother!!!!!!………can someone make sure Hope doesn’t miss bed-check?

Yesterday at 9:12am

Hope Johnson

Jesus left us with only two commandments, and I believe all of you know what they are. If you consider those commandments to be the Word of God, you would not choose judgment.

If everyone followed those two commandments with every thought, we would create Heaven. But instead, believers go on believing that they are somehow separate from what IS, they take no responsibility, and only wait for someone to take them somewhere else – all the while creating this world to represent the Hell that they seek to avoid.

The choice you are making is unconscious because it is not aligned with the real you. Your beliefs are based on strong emotion such as fear, shame, guilt (this is apparent within your words). But your spirit is not ruled by emotion, and when you unify, you can free yourselves from this perpetual cycle of highs and lows.

You are all seekers at the core of your Being. Your ego is afraid of new information, and that’s why you reject it outright. But YOU are always seeking to unify with your ego, and that’s why you have attracted me.

I am greatly honored and humbled by this opportunity to share with you. ♥

Yesterday at 10:33am ·

Erika

Hope, if your idea of heaven is actually on earth, right now, then, in your mind, what happens when we die? nothing? Do you think we turn into a tree from the ground? Heaven is not something man can create. If it were, it would be far from perfection, no matter how many commandments you follow, how much positivity you have, unifying your spirit (not quite sure what all that would entail), or just being. Heaven was created by God (ALONE!) for us to spend eternity with Him after our time on this planet is over. Even if you were to achieve getting everyone to believe and do what you say, I think you would be surprised. Being positive, and all that jazz you speak of, does not take away our sinful nature, therefore, creating a less than perfect world. Which also makes me wonder, if you think you are God, or that God is you, or whatever, would you say that you do nothing wrong? (you can be quite confusing at times, just want clarification). I am confident that when I say this, I am speaking for all of us Christians. This ‘choice’ you speak of that we have made is not because of fear, shame or guilt. That would be your wrong interpretation of the things we have discussed, in the same instance that you have wrongly interpreted the Bible. I am sorry if anything we have said was so unclear to the point where you would interpret it so incorrectly, that was not our intent.
Perhaps your choice to, from my perspective, pick and choose different passages to refer to, while neglecting very important other ones, is done because of fear or guilt.

Yesterday at 2:30pm

Hope Johnson

Erika – We don’t die, our consciousness is infinite – it doesn’t require a physical body. After we lose our physical body, we are still part of everything but we are not so narrowly focused. Other than that, it is a mystery -I’m not here to solve it but to live it.

What I tell you has been revealed to me – it’s not something I believe in my mind, but something I have experienced. These experiences are not explainable, but I do my best to reveal the way for people to have their own experiences.

Heaven is not something man can create because man believes the extremes presented by the mind. Beyond mind there is only balance, and when we can direct our self-image toward that balance, we are creating our perspective of heaven from the expression of our Being (not human mind)

The belief that we are incapable of creating Heaven is the reason we create a lot of the opposite. From the basis of our beliefs, actions follow – and every thought affects everything else.

Everything is created by God alone, like you said. There is only one God, and everything in existence is it. God is only referred to as a male because the Bible was written by men – but God contains both male and female aspects in perfect balance.

I don’t want anyone to believe what I say. I share because I want to encourage each person on their own journey of discovery. We are connected, but have separate awareness, and every perspective will be different. But the more we seek, the more connected we will become – and peace will prevail.

Our true nature is not sinful. You are talking about the self-image again (the nature of mind). No one can do wrong – we all only do the best we can given the information and understanding available to us at the time. When our self-image is completely aligned with the understanding that everything is connected, our thoughts and actions can only be Divine. Everything else is a manifestation of our degree of disconnectedness.

I know this can be confusing and I appear to talk in circles. That’s because what I’m pointing to is unfathomable – there are no absolutes like in the physical world.

I can see that your beliefs are coming from certain emotions because many of the Christian comments on this post threaten punishment/eternal damnation, or speak of me as a deceiver, insane etc. simply because I accept all truths and all people who profess those truths. These are indicative of rigid thoughts and judgment cast upon fellow humans. This is conflict.

I’m not sure which Biblical passages you find more important than the last two commandments of Jesus, but I would be open to discussing any such passage with you.

Thanks again for your questions. I appreciate them very much.

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  1. low cost links
    May 6, 2010

    Cool post.

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  2. Brooke
    March 31, 2013

    I LOVE YOU HOPE >>> THANK YOU <3

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    1. thewaytoTheWay
      April 5, 2013

      Thank you, Brook! Love you!!

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